We sit down with Christie Gray, Head of Brand Design and Identity at Kimberly Clark. Christie’s narrative spans the emotional spectrum of a creative life, beginning with a formative experience visiting a dying mentor in a hospice - a moment that cemented her belief that creativity is an innate survival mechanism.
She candidly explores the commercial realities of the industry, recounting a painful experience where she was denied credit for a D&AD Pencil-winning project. This erasure shaped her current leadership philosophy, which rests on three pillars: clarity, psychological safety, and radical recognition.
Beyond the studio, Christie offers a sophisticated take on the integration of motherhood and ambition. She challenges the industry’s lingering "Mad Men" dynamics and advocates for a results-based culture where boundaries are respected.
We also look to the horizon, discussing the future of FMCG branding as a "living ecosystem" and why AI represents a return to pure ideation rather than a threat to employment. Whether you are a junior designer fearing specialisation or a leader seeking to foster a healthier culture, this conversation offers an essential roadmap for a resilient, human-centric career.



Nothing, Something Nothing (NSN) is a podcast series from JonesMillbank. Our host is Rob French, Creative Director, a filmmaker and DP.
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